SLC 24 Howard Jones
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I need some help, I've searched for the thread with no success. One of you recently had a thread concerning SLC headlight cutouts. Can you point me in the right direction? Anyone have pics of the new fiberglass headlight buckets installed with lights? Thanks, Al
Dave Lindemann
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Dave, Thanks, Al
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I received the extra bearings from Fran a few days ago so I have been working on the rear suspension. The bearings went right into the upgrade aluminum rockers. I put the bearings into the freezer and the alum rockers into hot water (aprox 200F) and the bearings dropped right in. I checked them after all was at room temp and they seam nice and tight. All good, thanks Fran.
All in all this rear upgrade went smoothly. I did cut some bolts of to length and use a flat piece of glass to back up some sandpaper so that I could take a little material off of the tapered washers so that they would fit into the rockers, but no big deal really.
When the suspension is lowered to max droop it seems to be limited by the shock housing base contacting the rocker body. I don't know if this is a problem because I haven't set the car on the ground yet and checked for what I might expect for a real world droop. Bump seams to be fine at full travel. Plenty of shock travel.
This mod will improve the space issue at the rear in relation to exhaust components. It moves the shocks outboard a bit and this should give me a little better clearance for the mufflers and tail pipes.
I added the last picture to better show the other two bolts that mount the mid engine mounts I made.
All in all this rear upgrade went smoothly. I did cut some bolts of to length and use a flat piece of glass to back up some sandpaper so that I could take a little material off of the tapered washers so that they would fit into the rockers, but no big deal really.
When the suspension is lowered to max droop it seems to be limited by the shock housing base contacting the rocker body. I don't know if this is a problem because I haven't set the car on the ground yet and checked for what I might expect for a real world droop. Bump seams to be fine at full travel. Plenty of shock travel.
This mod will improve the space issue at the rear in relation to exhaust components. It moves the shocks outboard a bit and this should give me a little better clearance for the mufflers and tail pipes.
I added the last picture to better show the other two bolts that mount the mid engine mounts I made.
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Dave, I have the same ones you do. Fran sent me a old set so that I could experiment with the anti roll bar links. I needed to drill some holes into them to mount the upper brackets onto the A-arm. At some point in the future I will put the other ones (like yours) back on the car. I just don't know how the rear bar will tune up until I drive it. Thanks for the Tip.
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Sounds good Howard - just trying to help out. I'm watching your build closely - keep up the great work!
Dave L
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Dave, rear suspension up to date!
I have been thinking about the fuel pump, regulator, and filter location. I don't like to bury things down under panels and seats so I'm not putting them in the fuel tank compartment. I can't get to them there easily so I decided to make a panel, cover it with space craft stuff, and mount the whole thing on the chassis in the rear of the car. Sort of where they are in my GT40. This location has been very good in the 40 so I did it in the SLC also. I'm waiting on the filter and some more fittings. More pictures when they arrive.
I have been thinking about the fuel pump, regulator, and filter location. I don't like to bury things down under panels and seats so I'm not putting them in the fuel tank compartment. I can't get to them there easily so I decided to make a panel, cover it with space craft stuff, and mount the whole thing on the chassis in the rear of the car. Sort of where they are in my GT40. This location has been very good in the 40 so I did it in the SLC also. I'm waiting on the filter and some more fittings. More pictures when they arrive.
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Here's some more pictures of the fuel pump panel and it's related hookups. All that is left now of the fuel system is the carb and it's feed lines. These will wait until I get closer to finishing the build. There's no point in having a brand new carb. sitting around for months. I have plenty to do otherwise.
The more I look at the rear of the car the more I think I need to support the tail of the gearbox. I think I'll fool around with that for awhile.
The more I look at the rear of the car the more I think I need to support the tail of the gearbox. I think I'll fool around with that for awhile.
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I'll be working on that myself, hopefully next week. I saw a good solution on one of the GT40 build threads where the builder had two plates cut to match the contours of the box and bolted to the rear.
I'm going to do the same thing more or less and draw them in CAD to get them cut locally. Want to go in for half? I have a G50-52 with sideshifter and billet end plate but I think it may still work for yours too. I'll contact Roger at CMS to confirm if you're interested.
Here are the pics I was referring to. My apologies to the builder for not giving proper acknowledgment as I do not remember the name/build thread they came from. Fwiw, I think that may be a G50-50 in the pic below.
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I have the same fuel pump you are using. I hope you have better luck with your fuel pumps than I have had. For some reason I cannot seem to get the fittings to seal up. I also have troubles with them loosing their prime.
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Dave, the rear of the GB hangs way out back and a long way from the chassis cross member at the bottom in a SLC, I don't think they will work. I was going to hang mine from the center section bolts in the same sort of way.
Cam, I intend to cover the bottom of the car and enclose the tires with tubs.
Jona, I cross my fingers that it will work and send it all back to Summit if it doesn't. Thanks for the heads up.
Cam, I intend to cover the bottom of the car and enclose the tires with tubs.
Jona, I cross my fingers that it will work and send it all back to Summit if it doesn't. Thanks for the heads up.
Howard,
I have almost convinced myself to mount my coolers from the center section somehow. I WAS going to 'glass some brackets in the spyder adjacent to the
body ducts and fabricate some CF ducting in between. BTW, I selected the
Aeromotive 11106 fuel pump for my LS engine. Pump & filters, etc. will be mounted outside of the fuel tank area. Should have no issues.
I have almost convinced myself to mount my coolers from the center section somehow. I WAS going to 'glass some brackets in the spyder adjacent to the
body ducts and fabricate some CF ducting in between. BTW, I selected the
Aeromotive 11106 fuel pump for my LS engine. Pump & filters, etc. will be mounted outside of the fuel tank area. Should have no issues.
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I think this is the really cool thing about this car. Everybody is coming up with their own solutions to a wide variation of equipment selection. Some day we will need to get them all together and have a stand and stare at the SLC party.
I will run a engine oil cooler. I haven't spent much time on it yet. As far as a gearbox cooler goes..........maybe. I have one on the R21 in my GT40 but I don't think it is needed. Open track sessions are just not long enough to really heat up a gearbox. At least in a car with 300Hp at the wheels. I'm going for 400 wheel HP in the SLC and I have had the ports put into the G50 so that I can run a temp gauge and cooler if it's needed. I am going to run a GB temp gauge irregardless.
I will run a engine oil cooler. I haven't spent much time on it yet. As far as a gearbox cooler goes..........maybe. I have one on the R21 in my GT40 but I don't think it is needed. Open track sessions are just not long enough to really heat up a gearbox. At least in a car with 300Hp at the wheels. I'm going for 400 wheel HP in the SLC and I have had the ports put into the G50 so that I can run a temp gauge and cooler if it's needed. I am going to run a GB temp gauge irregardless.
An engine oil cooler for me too. Gearbox pump, filter & cooler for the 930LSD.
probably overkill, but what the heck! Got me thinking (dangerous) about mid- mounting the coolers and fabbing CF ducting in the rear clip with NACA ducts that would close placing the ducting in reasonable proximity to the coolers. More cardboard work needed to check possibilities.
Working on a design for a reasonable rear gearbox mount.
probably overkill, but what the heck! Got me thinking (dangerous) about mid- mounting the coolers and fabbing CF ducting in the rear clip with NACA ducts that would close placing the ducting in reasonable proximity to the coolers. More cardboard work needed to check possibilities.
Working on a design for a reasonable rear gearbox mount.
I realize the rear hangs out a bit, I do have the tranny in the car along with the engine so I can see that pretty clear. I was thinking of welding a perpindicular brace onto the backside of a plate similiar to the one pictured (though flipped upside down to "hang" the tranny) and then mounting those to a parallel tab welded to the upper tubular steel brace with two bolts each side in single shear. Where those mounts pictured are located and the upper brace is, they are offset by ~4-1/2" so I don't think that would be a problem.
I'm also going to run a cooler/pump for the tranny. I had an internal oil spray bar/manifold installed and will just run a t-stat so if the tranny gets hot it will take care of itself and still always spray pressurized oil to the internals, regardless of the temp.
I'm also going to run a cooler/pump for the tranny. I had an internal oil spray bar/manifold installed and will just run a t-stat so if the tranny gets hot it will take care of itself and still always spray pressurized oil to the internals, regardless of the temp.
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