Racing a GT40 Replica (was BEST GT40 for Racing)

Ron Earp

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So wouldn't a RHD given you some advantage?

Maybe. But all the intended drivers for the enduro are left hand racers and would probably prefer left hand drive. Plus, the car is more space efficient setup as a lefty center shift, and far easier to get into and out of, important for pit stops, without having to climb over the shifter and mechanisms. I'd prefer a RHD for looks but the reality of it is that the LHD center shift is probably better for us.
 
Re: BEST GT40 for Racing??!!??

If you contact Dennis Olthoff I think you will find out that he does the setup on the Pathfinder cars as well. I have a customer's GT40 "R" at Olthoff's currently being finished. This includes installation of the fuel cells (which are proprietary to Olthoff, you could use others, but would incur the development costs) the suspension setup and other race-needed modifications. The factory (Hi Tech) does numerous changes on the "R" vs. the "standard" GT40 but they do not do all of the upgrades, i.e. six point belts, catch cans, etc.

Olthoff is the aknowledged master of these upgrades as he has raced his GT MK II (a very early production car) added a cage and developed most of the race spec parts and mods needed. He has also done several "R" setups/installs. We didn't want to reinvent the wheel so off to Dennis the car goes.

And yes, if you talk to Superformance retail in Irvine (Hillbank) they like Roush, but they are a Roush dealer. Pathfinder has used Holman-Moody engines so far. You may choose what you like or build/buy your own choice. Personally, I don't see the value in the Holman choice, they are are not reknown for small blocks and I believe (my PERSONAL opinion) that there are better/less expensive choices. Our customers car will have a vintage 302 with Gurney heads and Webers so it should make all the right noises.

So an "R" is an "R" is an "R"......

Great 411 Rick, I really appreciate it. I figured Superformance/Hillbank had some type of affiliation with Roush considering they didnt really want to even discuss any of the other Motor Pacakages there were out there :laugh:

Yah, Im getting feedback thats indicating all the companies are more or less selling "a Car" that performs on relatively equal planes straight out of the box. Im not sure yet what Im going to do in terms of the engine. I may build one for this car. Maybe get a Roush Yates.... we'll see :)
 
Re: BEST GT40 for Racing??!!??

Wow, this conversation really got cranked up while I was away. Great stuff all. Now, if I may summarize.

1. You can't go "real" vintage racing with anything south of $400K

2. The "R" spec cars from CAV and SPF will allow you to run in some "historic" races, but not much to run against. By the time you make them legal for NASA and SCCA, they will no longer be accepted by the historics.

3. Building a car from the various kits and bringing it up to speed for NASA or SCCA will cost $125K to $150K. Lot's of development and still no guarantee of success.

4. The Active Power GTR is purpose built for NASA Super Touring, and is ALREADY approved by NASA for such. With a unmolested LS6 it can compete in ST1, where the competition is plentiful and fierce. Swap in an LS7 or variant (sky's the limit) and move up to Super Unlimited. Everything about it is proper for this type of racing out of the box, and it costs less than $100K. Although it is not listed in the GT category for SCCA, on the regional level it will be thrown into SPO, where it should be quite competitive.

OK, Put that depressing inaccurate metric tape measure away and please tell us about the 3 most significant reasons that the Active Power GTR is something you are enthused about. I am too hung up on Vintage racing. I have only raced with NASA a couple times but it was fun. I have friends that race with NASA and I have never really considered building a car to run in NASA.
 
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Ron Earp

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What? I don't believe you.

tell us about the 3 most significant reasons that the Active Power GTR is something you are enthused about. I am too hung up on Vintage racing. I have only raced with NASA a couple times but it was fun. I have friends that race with NASA and I have never really considered building a car to run in NASA.

Looking for Tom's results with the Active Power car on Google it shows that Tom Leonard owns Active Power LLC in Pelham AL. I was thinking Active Power was up North? Maybe Tom is the new Active Power?

The correct set would be a modern brake that has no advantage over an original brake but does not have to be the actual original brake in this particular instance.

Another question here - so I could use an opposed two piston caliper (for example one from my Datsun) that is of the type and design from the period. Or, could it be a modern two piston caliper, like what you might find on a new Ford Mustang? Would the disc have to be solid? Surely they ran vented discs back in the day, even my 72 Torino had vented discs stock. But, then again, my Datsun had solid rotors stock.......
 
Chris Arden in Ohio used to be Active Power - GT Reproductions. He is a nice guy- known him a long time. He was a race tech back in the day. Maybe secret agent Tom is the Southern distributor or assembly person. Nothing wrong with that, lots of companies are looking for non-union facilities in the South.
You don't need solid rotors to race the Mitty. Like you said, you are just spectating this year anyway... but if you weren't and you actually wanted to run, you just shoot me an email and let me forward it on and we shall see what we shall see. It would be worth a shot. You just ask to be considered for entry so that you can get your car teched and get an event under your belt so that you can get your car ready for future events if you like Vintage racing. This is what I do with NASA and PCA.
More info for you though...
Generally they like to see a new driver without Vintage Race credentials run a smaller event first so that they can watch you like a hawk and make sure you are not a goober or an idiot, or at least the right kind of goober or idiot. Your credentials are good and something to be proud of and I think you should try it "someday" just to add the experience to your resume.
 
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