Car polish guys....

Been a little while since I've posted on GT40s....and this is probably going to come across as a bit bitchy...but it's been on my mind lately.

I recently purchased a vintage car ('72 mercedes 280se 4.5). Cosmetically, the car is absolutely beautiful - paint is amazing, body straight, interior, wheels, etc all beautiful. However, mechanically, it's a disaster - trans shifts poorly, timing chain stretched and slapping, fuel line (injected) leaks everywhere, valves adjustment way out, bad points/plugs/wires, non-op door locks, oil leaks everywhere, non-op cooling fan, etc. It just goes on and on....

Amazingly however, this car has been dragged to a lot of car shows over the last 6 or 7 years, and won awards for it's presentation/beauty. In that time period there has been 3 owners, each owning the car for a couple years then selling it on.

I've communicated with these three owners over email and phone - all nice friendly guys and self described "car guys." What strikes me though is that all of them could polish the shit out of a car like nobody's business, but really had zero mechanical skills. When something broke so the car was non-operational then it went to a mechanic for a fix - points closed up, fuel pump failure, bad battery, etc. When describing these repairs the line would be "we did the fuel pump and filter" or "we put in a new distributor." What that really meant is that a mechanic did the work, and the owner wrote a check to the mechanic.

My old dad used to sarcastically describe this kind of vintage car owner as a "car polisher." Nothing wrong with car polishing, but if you're going to present yourself as a knowledgeable vintage car owner, it's good to know a little something about how the car actually works. For example, Jay Leno could be a "car polisher" with all his money but he's actually extremely knowledgeable about the underlying mechanics and engineering. I have tremendous respect for that.

One thing I've always liked about GT40s is that it's a group of guys who actually understand their cars and automotive engineering. That's why I keep coming back even though I sold my GT40 some years ago.

Anyway, enough bitching for now I guess.
 

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Agreed…
These guys were commonly referred to as “Waxers”…. As in they could polish their cars and dogs, but that was the extent of their hands on skill….
 
Been a little while since I've posted on GT40s....and this is probably going to come across as a bit bitchy...but it's been on my mind lately.

I recently purchased a vintage car ('72 mercedes 280se 4.5). Cosmetically, the car is absolutely beautiful - paint is amazing, body straight, interior, wheels, etc all beautiful. However, mechanically, it's a disaster - trans shifts poorly, timing chain stretched and slapping, fuel line (injected) leaks everywhere, valves adjustment way out, bad points/plugs/wires, non-op door locks, oil leaks everywhere, non-op cooling fan, etc. It just goes on and on....

Amazingly however, this car has been dragged to a lot of car shows over the last 6 or 7 years, and won awards for it's presentation/beauty. In that time period there has been 3 owners, each owning the car for a couple years then selling it on.

I've communicated with these three owners over email and phone - all nice friendly guys and self described "car guys." What strikes me though is that all of them could polish the shit out of a car like nobody's business, but really had zero mechanical skills. When something broke so the car was non-operational then it went to a mechanic for a fix - points closed up, fuel pump failure, bad battery, etc. When describing these repairs the line would be "we did the fuel pump and filter" or "we put in a new distributor." What that really meant is that a mechanic did the work, and the owner wrote a check to the mechanic.

My old dad used to sarcastically describe this kind of vintage car owner as a "car polisher." Nothing wrong with car polishing, but if you're going to present yourself as a knowledgeable vintage car owner, it's good to know a little something about how the car actually works. For example, Jay Leno could be a "car polisher" with all his money but he's actually extremely knowledgeable about the underlying mechanics and engineering. I have tremendous respect for that.

One thing I've always liked about GT40s is that it's a group of guys who actually understand their cars and automotive engineering. That's why I keep coming back even though I sold my GT40 some years ago.

Anyway, enough bitching for now I guess.
By pure expérience...... the doorlock system on those Mercedes are functionning on vacuum principe, un locking locking all operated by vacuum...and the whole sport in this kind diagnose is to find the leak... where the atmospheric pressure gets in the system... and it is an invisible leak.....
same principe in Electric diagnose ... isolate every hose organ and apply vacuum pump on each element, to find faulty one...
 
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Thank you Paul, that's helpful. Yup, it's a funny thing on those cars - the vacuum system controls/affects all kinds of things...including the transmission shifting. I've tracked down a couple leaks already and things are getting better...but I'll keep at it!
 
Thank you Paul, that's helpful. Yup, it's a funny thing on those cars - the vacuum system controls/affects all kinds of things...including the transmission shifting. I've tracked down a couple leaks already and things are getting better...but I'll keep at it!
Cliff, not sure if this model has a metal or plastic vacuum canister or can but you should probably check that it is sealed and air tight. I chased a problem on a ‘70 Mach 1 that had a pin hole of rust under the undercoating on the steel canister it had. Just a thought.

Devin
 
Cliff, not sure if this model has a metal or plastic vacuum canister or can but you should probably check that it is sealed and air tight. I chased a problem on a ‘70 Mach 1 that had a pin hole of rust under the undercoating on the steel canister it had. Just a thought.

Devin
in the warm area (engine bay....under chassis near exhaust etc)of the car, the rubber vacuum hoses getting brittle, and cracks, seems ok, but under vibration (road/ engine ) they let atmospheric pressure freely getting in... no noise no leks...
other thing, engine running and stepping on the brake pedals and you hear hissings near the pedal....
 
Well, I am all the way around , mechanically great , but the paint job a bit challenged , LOL , Totally agree Cliff, in my humble opinion that's why guys that buy built SLCs don't drive them very much , and sell them with very few miles, crazy . Because if any little thing goes wrong, they are stuck !! It's not like you can take an SLC to the local mechanic and quickly fix the problem
 
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