Bring A Trailer (BAT) Cautionary Tale....

Just a cautionary tale here about buying cars off of Bring A Trailer (BAT).

In prior years/decades I've purchase two cars off of BAT and it was a good outcome in both cases. The sellers in both cases were very honest about the car's shortcomings and faults, and plenty of descriptive/illustrative pictures were provided. Both cars were exactly as described and good value.

I recently purchased a third car off of BAT (1972 Mercedes 280se 4.5), and I paid top dollar for it. The car looked fantastic...and does look fantastic. The cosmetics are excellent. However, the mechanicals are a basket case - the transmission won't go into reverse, the exhaust was falling off and leaking badly, the door locks don't work, only two windows work, one door one frozen shut, the car blows blue smoke (badly)....the list goes on. None of this was disclosed. The seller (a dealer) presented the car as an excellent car in good working condition. He did point out a couple tiny rock chips as the cars only flaws...again, of course, the implication being that everything else was good. The dealer indicated they had repaired a few things, but my impression now it it was just enough work such that the car would drive down the road for a video to show that it would actually move under its own power.

Now this is just outright fraudulent misrepresentation. Why this dealer wasn't honest and straight forward is not my business. But it seems to me that over the last 10 years or so there's been a gradual decline in the level of honesty (and diplomacy!) one can expect from their fellow human being. The bar has gone so low now that we seem to be at the point of "if you can get away with it then it's fine." I'm old enough now (57) to know that it didn't used to be that way...at least most of the time.

I'll spend the time and the money to fix the car properly in all respects because that's how I am. If I wasn't able to do the work myself I would be looking at a $15,000-18,000 repair bill at least. I think many others would just sell the car on due to the high repair costs, perhaps giving it back to the same dealer to run the scam again.

So, net, don't buy a car off BAT without inspecting it in person first. Unfortunately, your own eye balls and hands are really all you can rely upon now.

Good luck!
 

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Tyler Hoover from car TV shows got taken. His YT post follows - same M.O. Car looks sweet and is a mechanical nightmare. I would file a complaint with BaT.

 

Julian

Lifetime Supporter
BaT stay arms length from the transaction and generally do not intervene in disputes between buyer and seller. There are numerous complaints out there across almost all car platforms if one searches. As often as there are undisclosed issues by sellers, there are also unscrupulous buyers, with negative comments to suppress prices, shill bidding etc. It is a shame as BaT auctions command a premium price now, much based on the reputation gained via suppressing any bad press, I have heard of BaT deleting any negative feedback comments. I understand about 10% of the auctions are not consummated with a sale.
 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

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Supporter
BaT stay arms length from the transaction and generally do not intervene in disputes between buyer and seller. There are numerous complaints out there across almost all car platforms if one searches. As often as there are undisclosed issues by sellers, there are also unscrupulous buyers, with negative comments to suppress prices, shill bidding etc. It is a shame as BaT auctions command a premium price now, much based on the reputation gained via suppressing any bad press, I have heard of BaT deleting any negative feedback comments. I understand about 10% of the auctions are not consummated with a sale.
Auctions with "shills"! "Sold" cars that don't change hands! Over described cars! Say it ain't so Joe! I'm actually a ring man at Barrett-Jackson, but I told my mother I play piano at a whorehouse, so she won't be ashamed of me......
 
I've sold two cars on BAT. They were listed for 7 days. Both sold over my reserves, one substantially so. I was floored by the fact that not one bidder contacted me to arrange an inspection. One of the cars sold for six figures. I know that I personally would not spend that kind of money on a car without spending a few hundred dollars to inspect and drive it.
 
Yes, again - caveat emptor. These days you really have to see a car in person before bidding on it. There are sellers out there who just don't give a shite about being honest and straight forward.

The selling dealer who screwed me on this one is John Van Lindingham at Route 36 Motorcars. Don't EVER buy a car from this guy, he's a total fraud. I'm out $26,000 on a car that's a mechanical dog. A car which was advertised to be in great shape.

BAT was kind enough to send a follow up email asking for more information....which I did provide. But that was the end of it. No further action.

There's always somebody out there screwing it up for everyone else......
 
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